77W 9V-SWA delivery flight

[9V-JKL]

Our 1st 77W on its way........

http://www.flightstats.com/go/Flight...11-21&x=10&y=6

[CGK]

Hoorray, can't wait for Dec5...

[globetrekker84]

Interesting to see that it's stopping over at ICN. Odd. Shouldn't it be able to fly from Paine Field to Singapore nonstop (assuming it's flying empty)?

[MAN Flyer]

It is a bit strange. There can't be much weight on the bird.

Be nice to get a picture of it arriving at Changi on here. Better get onto the NinerVictor lot methinks.

[9V-JKL]

I have a feeling that plane's belly may well be full of cargo.

Similarly, 9V-SYL's delivery flight was also via ICN.

[zvezda]

I've been on a delivery flight. There were two test pilots plus one instructor pilot (as an observer) onboard. A nonstop PAE-SIN flight would require an extra pilot and would use more fuel. What would be the advantage of flying nonstop?

[globetrekker84]

I have a feeling that plane's belly may well be full of cargo.

Similarly, 9V-SYL's delivery flight was also via ICN.

Cargo of what though? BTW, 9V-SYL doesn't have the capabilities to fly nonstop from PNE-SIN in headwinds. A still-wind flight would still have the plane splashdown some 1000 km shy of SIN.

I've been on a delivery flight. There were two test pilots plus one instructor pilot (as an observer) onboard. A nonstop PAE-SIN flight would require an extra pilot and would use more fuel. What would be the advantage of flying nonstop?

And actually, flying PAE-ICN-SIN is 12978 km, while PAE-SIN is 12960 km, so it would actually be shorter by a whole 18 km. Not paying landing fees would be a big cost advantage.

[9V-JKL]

ETA SIN 1145

Current landing pattern using 02L runway. woo hoo! I may get to see it from my office window

[9V-JKL]

Cargo of what though? BTW, 9V-SYL doesn't have the capabilities to fly nonstop from PNE-SIN in headwinds. A still-wind flight would still have the plane splashdown some 1000 km shy of SIN.

No idea what cargo, just speculating...maybe some spares of???

AFAIK, SQ delivery flights have the normal full crew (flightdeck + cabin) & so other admin staff. Told to me by a LSS who was once on a non-stop 772-ER delivery flight

[shortfinals]

ETA SIN 1145

Current landing pattern using 02L runway. woo hoo! I may get to see it from my office window

Recheck ATIS often!

[globetrekker84]

AFAIK, SQ delivery flights have the normal full crew (flightdeck + cabin) & so other admin staff. Told to me by a LSS who was once on a non-stop 772-ER delivery flight

Really? A full crew of 10+? I admit it would be fun to do a delivery flight. Kind of like the 772LR's longest flight (22 hours+). I wonder how many bottles of Dom I could go through.

[9V-JKL]

Recheck ATIS often!

Am checking.

[zvezda]

Cargo of what though? BTW, 9V-SYL doesn't have the capabilities to fly nonstop from PNE-SIN in headwinds. A still-wind flight would still have the plane splashdown some 1000 km shy of SIN.

A B777-300ER can fly PAE-SIN nonstop with some cargo. How much depends on the winds that day. Anyway, it's difficult to imagine cargo on a delivery flight. On my delivery flight, I was only allowed one regulation carry-on. The cargo hold was empty.

And actually, flying PAE-ICN-SIN is 12978 km, while PAE-SIN is 12960 km, so it would actually be shorter by a whole 18 km. Not paying landing fees would be a big cost advantage.

Landing fees for a tech stop would be less than the extra fuel burned on a nonstop.

[zvezda]

AFAIK, SQ delivery flights have the normal full crew (flightdeck + cabin) & so other admin staff. Told to me by a LSS who was once on a non-stop 772-ER delivery flight

Normally, a first delivery, such as 9V-SWA, would include a load of extra employees celebrating the new type or subtype. Later deliveries, such 9V-SWB, would probably have about 5 or 6 people onboard.

[9V-JKL]

She arrived in beautiful weather into 02L no less. Pics available from the NinerVictor forum