Upcoming FCO to SIN - Retrofit 772?

[SQ228]

Yep, most flights to Europe are full of Australians at the moment.

[GreekLunatic]

The Greeks here in oz are going to Greece. Helps that the dollar is doing well against the euro

[RomeFlyer]

Times must be bad. It's summer and beautiful in Roma and the rest of Italia. Wish I was heading there

True. Italians (and most Europeans) are definitely cutting back on travel. Not sure if Asia/Oceania residents are foregoing trips to Europe.

[CarbonMan]

Just arrived back in FCO from SIN. This time had 9V-SVO. Passenger load was pretty light and had a row to myself.

Times must be bad. It's summer and beautiful in Roma and the rest of Italia. Wish I was heading there

[RomeFlyer]

FCO is, in some ways, a backwater airport. It doesn't have great connections to cities outside of continental Europe, so I guess I can be happy that an airline the quality of SQ offers a direct flight.

Just arrived back in FCO from SIN. This time had 9V-SVO. Passenger load was pretty light and had a row to myself. Again, flight attendants seem to really go out of their way to attend to economy passengers.

[SQMilan]

Problem for us but not for SQ is for SQ on the routes to MXP, FCO and CPH there is no competition for direct flights. Therefore they are able to send these planes on these routes as there is no alternative unless there you transfer. On the shorter routes where they send the retrofitted or new planes it is due to heavy competition. I am sure if AZ sent a 772 to SIN from FCO then this route would be upgraded to something like a 333 and if demand is high enough then a 77W

The demand isn't as high as for places like Zurich, LHR and CDG so they can't justify a 388, whilst CDG has competition from AF and LHR big competition from BA and QF.

Off the topic a bit although it's not direct booking the overnight 388 to Zurich with SQ then the connecting flight to London City looks like a very good option which you can book on Swiss Air website as City is much better location and 10x nicer than LHR

SQ uses 777-300ERs to MXP... Milan along with Barcelona, were the third destinations to receive the 77W in 2006 (after Paris and Zurich)

[FN-GM]

I don't know how/why/what exactly, but SQI and SRN are apparently different from the other SR* and SQ* 772s and they are the ones that can fly as far as NZ under normal conditions, as well as all the SV* series, of course.

The engines have been rated back to 777-200ER

[wlgspotter]

They do have 777-300's & 777-300ER as well.

My bad - I meant to say all of SQ's 777-200's are the ER models...

[wlgspotter]

I don't know how/why/what exactly, but SQI and SRN are apparently different from the other SR* and SQ* 772s and they are the ones that can fly as far as NZ under normal conditions, as well as all the SV* series, of course.

I noticed at too. Accoridng to this list http://www.caas.gov.sg/caasWeb2010/e...e_No_Jun12.pdf, it looks like SQI and SRN is now listed as B777-200ERs - not sure what technical difference do they have to other SQ and SR birds...

[wlgspotter]

They do have 777-300's & 777-300ER as well.

My bad - I meant to say all of SQ 777-200's are ER models...

I don't know how/why/what exactly, but SQI and SRN are apparently different from the other SR* and SQ* 772s and they are the ones that can fly as far as NZ under normal conditions, as well as all the SV* series, of course.

Yes I noticed that too. According to this listhttp://www.caas.gov.sg/caasWeb2010/export/sites/caas/en/About_CAAS/Our_Strategic_Thrusts/Safety_Oversight_x_Promotion/Singapore_Registered_Aircraft/List_of_Aircraft_on_Singapore_Register/List_of_Aircraft_on_Singapore_Register_PDFs/2012_PDFs/Singapore_Registered_Aircraft_Engine_No_Jun12.pdf, it looks like SQI and SRN has been recertified as "ER" models. Don't who what difference, technically, are SQI and SRN from the other SQ and SR birds though.

[SQ228]

I don't know how/why/what exactly, but SQI and SRN are apparently different from the other SR* and SQ* 772s and they are the ones that can fly as far as NZ under normal conditions, as well as all the SV* series, of course.

[17august]

No they cant. Although SQ dont have any you might want to know that the A330-200 can.[/QUOTE]

Ah ok that is where I was a bit confused because whenever I land into LHR off SQ318 you always see the MU 330 arriving from Shanghai which is a 330-200.

[FN-GM]

As such, unless the SV series gets retrofitted I doubt you'll also see any SQ and SR birds to Europe.

I believe they are there is another post about it on here.

As for the 777s, I believe all of SQ's 777s are all 777-200ERs,

They do have 777-300's & 777-300ER as well.

]I don't think an A330-300 has the legs to fly SIN - FCO non stop, so I doubt you'll ever see that on the route.

No they cant. Although SQ dont have any you might want to know that the A330-200 can.

[wlgspotter]

Problem for us but not for SQ is for SQ on the routes to MXP, FCO and CPH there is no competition for direct flights. Therefore they are able to send these planes on these routes as there is no alternative unless there you transfer. On the shorter routes where they send the retrofitted or new planes it is due to heavy competition. I am sure if AZ sent a 772 to SIN from FCO then this route would be upgraded to something like a 333 and if demand is high enough then a 77W

The demand isn't as high as for places like Zurich, LHR and CDG so they can't justify a 388, whilst CDG has competition from AF and LHR big competition from BA and QF.

Off the topic a bit although it's not direct booking the overnight 388 to Zurich with SQ then the connecting flight to London City looks like a very good option which you can book on Swiss Air website as City is much better location and 10x nicer than LHR

I don't think an A330-300 has the legs to fly SIN - FCO non stop, so I doubt you'll ever see that on the route.

As for the 777s, I believe all of SQ's 777s are all 777-200ERs, but the SQ and SR series birds were originally equipped with derated engines (perhaps saving on certification/registrations costs?), and SQ's original intention was to use them on only reqional/medium haul routes ex SIN. The SV series birds (SQ marketed them as B777-200ERs) are the one originally intended to fly long haul. Obviously with the retrofit only the SQ and SR have even retrofitted with new regional J class, but I thought the Y class remained to same? Also not sure if the SQ and SR series have been recertified for long haul as I know try are used for SIN-AKL now. As such, unless the SV series gets retrofitted I doubt you'll also see any SQ and SR birds to Europe.

[17august]

Problem for us but not for SQ is for SQ on the routes to MXP, FCO and CPH there is no competition for direct flights. Therefore they are able to send these planes on these routes as there is no alternative unless there you transfer. On the shorter routes where they send the retrofitted or new planes it is due to heavy competition. I am sure if AZ sent a 772 to SIN from FCO then this route would be upgraded to something like a 333 and if demand is high enough then a 77W

The demand isn't as high as for places like Zurich, LHR and CDG so they can't justify a 388, whilst CDG has competition from AF and LHR big competition from BA and QF.

Off the topic a bit although it's not direct booking the overnight 388 to Zurich with SQ then the connecting flight to London City looks like a very good option which you can book on Swiss Air website as City is much better location and 10x nicer than LHR