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  • greg99
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    The actual callsigns are SAM 28000 and SAM 29000.
    Not when the President or Vice President are on board. Then, the actual callsigns are "Air Force One" or "Air Force Two." I.e., when ATC talks to them, they use "Air Force One/Two" as appropriate.

    The aircraft "reg" are 28000/29000, and when the Pres/VP are not on board, then their callsigns are SAM 28000/29000. There are lots of other Air Force aircraft that they use, including 757's and Gulfstreams, all of which become Air Force One/Two when they are on board.

    There is a famous moment related to this when Former President Richard Nixon resigned as President and VP Gerald Ford became President. Nixon was in the air flying home to California when Ford was sworn in, and at that moment somewhere over Missouri, the pilot radioed to ATC "Air Force One is now SAM 27000" (the prior 707-based AF1).

    Greg

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  • flyguy
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    The 4 Boeing 757s delivered to the USAF are designated as the C-32A

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  • flyguy
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    the "Mrs President and kids" are unlikely to be able to fly on the VC-25s on their own - as there are few other executive jets avail like the 757 that usually Mrs Clinton and other very senior Congressional members take - besides they have 737 and the older DC-9s as under painted under "United States of America" on its upper fuselage.

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  • icn.sg
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    What happens when the first wife and first kids need to travel without the president? Do they fly commercial airliners, or do they have the freedom to fly on the VC-25As anytime they want?

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  • SQflyergirl
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    SAM = Special Air Mission. And yeah, those are VC-25A's , not 747's

    Of course, there's Marine One, and the rarer
    Navy One (one ever used once when GWB landed on CVN-72 in an S-3 Viking)
    Coast Guard One (never used)
    Army One (not used lately)
    and Executive One (Richard Nixon till now has been the only sitting president to fly commercially - although I believe the plane did not carry the callsign Executive one)

    Optionally, they append a Foxtrot at the end of the callsign if a family member is travelling but not the President/Vice president.

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  • boing
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    Originally posted by E-Aviation View Post
    Well I did manage to catch a glimpse, but so much that I can only say that yes I did see it. Not very clear and police presence was clear being PLA and S 28000 or S29000 but yes I did see it, may upload photos soon, not that they are any good because of the police
    Would love to see those photos !

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  • pavion
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    Well I did manage to catch a glimpse, but so much that I can only say that yes I did see it. Not very clear and police presence was clear being PLA and S 28000 or S29000 but yes I did see it, may upload photos soon, not that they are any good because of the police

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  • Caravelle
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    Photo of Air Force 1 landing at PLAB.

    http://www.clubsnap.com/forums/showthread.php?t=604767

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  • boing
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    Originally posted by SINFJ View Post
    You confirmed my suspicion on the approach... Technically approach into PLAB would be to the northeast from the sea, as the rest of the areas are too built up for finals... so no way a low flying 747 around SingPost Center. Never expect CAAS to allow a Kai Tak
    I will assume AF1 came in from the northeast due to security reasons but I once saw either a C5 or a C17 land from the SingPost Ctr side.

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  • SINFJ
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    Originally posted by flyguy View Post
    As i was travellling to a friend's place saw Air Force One coming in to land at Paya Lebar from Punggol at abt 7pm - 7.15pm sat evening - and was not accompanied by any fighter aircrafts. However, understand that there's always another AF1 trailing behind; as there's actually 2 AF1s.
    You confirmed my suspicion on the approach... Technically approach into PLAB would be to the northeast from the sea, as the rest of the areas are too built up for finals... so no way a low flying 747 around SingPost Center. Never expect CAAS to allow a Kai Tak

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  • SINFJ
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    Originally posted by boing View Post
    Technically, there's only one Air Force One. Any Air Force a/c the President boards becomes the Air Force One. The jumbos normal callsign, if I'm not mistaken, is S27000 and S28000. Saw it on a NGC docu before. ANd you're true about the two AF1s coming in.

    Too bad you didn't take any pics of the AF1 landing.
    The actual callsigns are SAM 28000 and SAM 29000

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  • flyguy
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    I was driving at that time so didnt even have time to whip out my handphone cam and it was too close already when i realised that it was AF1 - as thought it was just a 747 coming in for maintenance when it was approaching.
    And coincidently just saw part of Discovery on Air Force One just now at 8pm plus.

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  • Nick C
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    Originally posted by boing View Post
    Technically, there's only one Air Force One. Any Air Force a/c the President boards becomes the Air Force One. The jumbos normal callsign, if I'm not mistaken, is S27000 and S28000. Saw it on a NGC docu before. ANd you're true about the two AF1s coming in.

    Too bad you didn't take any pics of the AF1 landing.
    VC-25 SAM 28000 & 29000.

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  • boing
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    Originally posted by flyguy View Post
    However, understand that there's always another AF1 trailing behind; as there's actually 2 AF1s.
    Technically, there's only one Air Force One. Any Air Force a/c the President boards becomes the Air Force One. The jumbos normal callsign, if I'm not mistaken, is S27000 and S28000. Saw it on a NGC docu before. ANd you're true about the two AF1s coming in.

    Too bad you didn't take any pics of the AF1 landing.

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  • flyguy
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    As i was travellling to a friend's place saw Air Force One coming in to land at Paya Lebar from Punggol at abt 7pm - 7.15pm sat evening - and was not accompanied by any fighter aircrafts. However, understand that there's always another AF1 trailing behind; as there's actually 2 AF1s.

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