Third runway and T4

[boing]

Skytrain itself is a failure design. As what you say, 50 min! Think of passenger who need to do connection between terminals - even on same SQ!
For the general public taking MRT too - After arriving at T2/T3, tskr s sky train to T4? or there will be a extra stop at T4 before T2/T3?

Try to study the video of new design of HKIA, every resources is integrated to main terminal. They even open up for public to write in for recommendation.

Skytrain failure ?? What do you propose than ? Aladdin & friends to transport people on their magic carpet around the airport ?

[Savage25]

Skytrain itself is a failure design. As what you say, 50 min! Think of passenger who need to do connection between terminals - even on same SQ!
For the general public taking MRT too - After arriving at T2/T3, tskr s sky train to T4? or there will be a extra stop at T4 before T2/T3?

Try to study the video of new design of HKIA, every resources is integrated to main terminal. They even open up for public to write in for recommendation.

Can I have some of whatever it is you're smoking?

[MAN Flyer]

Skytrain itself is a failure design.

Really ?. Can you please enlighten us in what way ?

For the general public taking MRT too - After arriving at T2/T3, tskr s sky train to T4? or there will be a extra stop at T4 before T2/T3?

T4 hasn't even been started yet, so how do you know how easy or difficult it is to get to it ?. To complain about something before the system is even known is ridiculous, even by your standards.

Try to study the video of new design of HKIA, every resources is integrated to main terminal. They even open up for public to write in for recommendation.

Don't need to study a video, I go through HKG regularly. Last time I was there I saw Skytrains linking terminals same as Changi. I was even on one myself.

Valid only if you have few hours for your connection anyway. (and your inbound flight is not delayed).

Exactly what I said, and the same for any other airport in the world.

Operation will also has to consider other logistics eg. transfer of bags between terminals.

Not a problem. Changi probably has the most efficient baggage system of any airport in the world. When I started flying to Singapore years ago it used to be my ambition to beat my luggage to the the belt.

I think you've mis-read Man Flyer's point of the 50min walk.... That is done on purpose... and not a regular route pax normally take.

What do you expect ?. When it comes to Changi the bitterness beats the content every time.

[SQGamespeed]

Skytrain itself is a failure design. As what you say, 50 min! Think of passenger who need to do connection between terminals - even on same SQ!
For the general public taking MRT too - After arriving at T2/T3, tskr s sky train to T4? or there will be a extra stop at T4 before T2/T3?

Try to study the video of new design of HKIA, every resources is integrated to main terminal. They even open up for public to write in for recommendation.

Skytrain failure?? What are we supposed to do without it in case you arrive at F60 and need to connect to A21 in less than 40 minutes? Run like Usain Bolt?!

But that would be an even better exercise wouldn't it?

[9V-JKL]

Skytrain itself is a failure design. As what you say, 50 min! Think of passenger who need to do connection between terminals - even on same SQ!
For the general public taking MRT too - After arriving at T2/T3, tskr s sky train to T4? or there will be a extra stop at T4 before T2/T3?

Try to study the video of new design of HKIA, every resources is integrated to main terminal. They even open up for public to write in for recommendation.

I think you've mis-read Man Flyer's point of the 50min walk.... That is done on purpose... and not a regular route pax normally take.

[cscs1956]

Well excercise is definitely one of the reasons I started doing it, but I have to say I do it because I enjoy it. It's a great way to pass an hour (longer if you stop off somewhere on the way to eat, drink or shop) if you have a few hours connecting time and are bored of the lounges.

Valid only if you have few hours for your connection anyway. (and your inbound flight is not delayed).

Operation will also has to consider other logistics eg. transfer of bags between terminals.

[cscs1956]

Here we go again...

Presuming you meant to say redesign, how, prey tell, do you suggest they do this ?.

Not only that, but to say T1, 2 & 3 'is like running independently without integration' is more utter nonsense. All three terminals are linked to each other with a skytrain that takes literally a few minutes and you can walk from one end of the airport to the other in less than 50 minutes completely unhindered. I know, as I do it regularly.

Skytrain itself is a failure design. As what you say, 50 min! Think of passenger who need to do connection between terminals - even on same SQ!
For the general public taking MRT too - After arriving at T2/T3, tskr s sky train to T4? or there will be a extra stop at T4 before T2/T3?

Try to study the video of new design of HKIA, every resources is integrated to main terminal. They even open up for public to write in for recommendation.

[MAN Flyer]

Lol, and why in the world would you do that? Needing exercise, I presume?

Well excercise is definitely one of the reasons I started doing it, but I have to say I do it because I enjoy it. It's a great way to pass an hour (longer if you stop off somewhere on the way to eat, drink or shop) if you have a few hours connecting time and are bored of the lounges.

[boing]

From what I've heard, it seems as if T4 will be a much bigger replacement for the Budget Terminal. If that's the case, does it mean that T4 will be at the same site as BT? Then it would theoretically be possible for T4 to be physically joined to T2 like how the existing 3 terminals are connected.

And the third runway should open at least at the same time as T4, otherwise you may see even longer queues for takeoff!

The only way they could be physically connected between T4 and the other terminals is through the skytrain. It will be too far for most people to walk from the current Bt to Terminal 2.

[Kyo]

you can walk from one end of the airport to the other in less than 50 minutes completely unhindered. I know, as I do it regularly.

Lol, and why in the world would you do that? Needing exercise, I presume?

The most annoying are the far T1 C and D gates (my most frequently-used) especially if you're coming from T3 or the far extremes of T2. TG being a frequent offender

[MAN Flyer]

They should really find a way to resign this vs building more terminals.

Here we go again...

Presuming you meant to say redesign, how, prey tell, do you suggest they do this ?.

Not only that, but to say T1, 2 & 3 'is like running independently without integration' is more utter nonsense. All three terminals are linked to each other with a skytrain that takes literally a few minutes and you can walk from one end of the airport to the other in less than 50 minutes completely unhindered. I know, as I do it regularly.

[flying.monkeyz]

From what I've heard, it seems as if T4 will be a much bigger replacement for the Budget Terminal. If that's the case, does it mean that T4 will be at the same site as BT? Then it would theoretically be possible for T4 to be physically joined to T2 like how the existing 3 terminals are connected.
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To be physically joined to T2 they'll have to build a passageway through the Jetquay terminal, Dnata in-flight kitchen, through South Cross Taxiway 1 and 2, and SATS ICC1! Don't think that's gonna happen.

[flyguy]

agreed with flying.monkeyz that when they do built a new big or "mega" terminal together with the opening of runway 3, to accomodate all of SQ's operations and incl other airlines. For Changi to even have 6 Terminals is a bit too much. On hindsight Changi should have built a bigger T3.

[CarbonMan]

From what I've heard, it seems as if T4 will be a much bigger replacement for the Budget Terminal. If that's the case, does it mean that T4 will be at the same site as BT? Then it would theoretically be possible for T4 to be physically joined to T2 like how the existing 3 terminals ...

That's the idea, and that's why the budget terminal is being deconstructed starting from Sep. T4 will still be a "budget" terminal as reports have indicated that it will not have any aerobridges.

[SQGamespeed]

From what I've heard, it seems as if T4 will be a much bigger replacement for the Budget Terminal. If that's the case, does it mean that T4 will be at the same site as BT? Then it would theoretically be possible for T4 to be physically joined to T2 like how the existing 3 terminals are connected.

And the third runway should open at least at the same time as T4, otherwise you may see even longer queues for takeoff!