SQ & BA seeking to buy SU 787 delivery slots

[9V-JKL]

Excerpts from article: http://asia.news.yahoo.com/061107/3/2shi9.html

Russia's flagship carrier Aeroflot has missed a deadline in an interim agreement with Boeing on delivery of 22 Boeing-787 jets, losing a discount and delaying supply of the planes, an Aeroflot board member told Reuters on Tuesday.

British Airways and Singapore Airlines were seeking to buy the planes originally meant to be delivered to Aeroflot.

[Keithr]

Interesting - This could be the start for SIA to move back to Boeing due to Airbus and the A380 ---

[globetrekker84]

Those 2010 slots are pretty good. That would mean that the 787s would be arriving around the same time as the A333s.

[shortfinals]

Those 2010 slots are pretty good. That would mean that the 787s would be arriving around the same time as the A333s.

Were the 333's meant to bridge the gap before the 787 or the 350XWB arrived? cause if it was meant to be a precursor to the 787, then you might see the 333 lease disappear.

[Singapore_Air]

Well they just ordered the Trents for the A330. It would be strange for the A330 not to proceed.

If you really want to hypothesise further and speculate that the A330s are dependent on the A380 and A350XWB order, then it can conclude that SIA is still sticking with the two aforementioned aircraft

[globetrekker84]

Were the 333's meant to bridge the gap before the 787 or the 350XWB arrived? cause if it was meant to be a precursor to the 787, then you might see the 333 lease disappear.

Those A333s are a stop-gap measure for the A359XWBs. I think it's still on the LOI though. No news on whether it's been firmed up yet.

I'm getting giddy thinking about seeing all those planes in 2011:
B772ERs
B773s
B773ERs
B774s
B788s
A359XWBs
A388s

[Savage25]

I'm getting giddy thinking about seeing all those planes in 2011:
...
B774s
...

Yup...definitely giddy

[globetrekker84]

Yup...definitely giddy

You don't think they'll be around anymore? I think the last 2-3 will be.

[StarG]

I think Savage25 was commenting on the rocketship B777-400 (B774).

[globetrekker84]

Heh. Yeah. I think I've been in my house a little too long.

[shortfinals]

I think Savage25 was commenting on the rocketship B777-400 (B774).

You mean the rocketship PK-GSH you have in MS-FS ?

[zvezda]

Those A333s are a stop-gap measure for the A359XWBs. I think it's still on the LOI though. No news on whether it's been firmed up yet.

I'm getting giddy thinking about seeing all those planes in 2011:
B772ERs
B773s
B773ERs
B774s
B788s
A359XWBs
A388s

There is no SQ order for A330-300s or A350s. Those are only LoIs and may or may not become orders. The plan was for the A330s to replace 18 777s, specifically 9V-SQA through 9V-SQH, 9V-SRA through 9V-SRE, and 9V-SYA through 9V-SYE. The A350 will not have an EIS before 2013 at the earliest, so we definitely won't see it in the SQ fleet in 2011.

An SQ capture of the B787 delivery slots that SU lost would diminish the need for and chances of SQ ordering the A330 and A350.

[globetrekker84]

There is no SQ order for A330-300s or A350s. Those are only LoIs and may or may not become orders. The plan was for the A330s to replace the 17 9V-SR* subfleet. The A350 will not have an EIS before 2013 at the earliest, so we definitely won't see it in the SQ fleet in 2011.

An SQ capture of the B787 delivery slots that SU lost would diminish the need for and chances of SQ ordering the A330 and A350.

That is true that SQ still hasn't firmed up the deal yet, but then why did they announce of engine selections for the A333s?

http://www.singaporeair.com/saa/en_U...se/NE_5906.jsp

Besides, I also read somewhere that SQ intends on maintaining a fleet of greater than 100 frames, so we're in for a plethora of SQ birds. The SU slots would be just to get the 789s delivered a year earlier.

[zvezda]

That is true that SQ still hasn't firmed up the deal yet, but then why did they announce of engine selections for the A333s?

SQ signed a LoI for the airframes, then a LoI for the engines. Neither is yet a firm order.

Besides, I also read somewhere that SQ intends on maintaining a fleet of greater than 100 frames, so we're in for a plethora of SQ birds.

Yes, but not necessarily a plethora of types. By 2012, we might see only WhaleJets, B777s, and B787s in the passenger fleet.

The SU slots would be just to get the 789s delivered a year earlier.

Maybe. Or maybe to order more frames. With the 6th delay in the A350 program meaning EIS will be 2013 at the earliest, SQ may decide to buy B787s instead if they can get the delivery slots.

[nursalimLPP]

I hope it be B747-8I, B777s, B787 and A380s would be sweet